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how ryan prepped for the big night, and what are the main goals for romney and ryan's camp? what are they, and what do they want to say? let's go to robert costa from the national review online danville, cnbc contributor. the debate sunday way. bob costa as you talked to the romney/ryan people today, what phrases jump out? what do you think he wants to get across in at least a minimal way? >> they want to defend mitt romney's positions. they want to go after the obama economic record and reach out to new voters, especially view the voters who may find ryan appealing >> i keep talking about this youth thing. i think what ryan represents as a well-informed smart 42-year-old guy and does his body crunches and listens to music on his ipod and so forth, i think that's a tremendous plus for romney, i really do. there's his picture up there. i think, you know, the youth vote is shifting to romney. it's not going to be like it was in 2008. >> that's exactly right, larry. one thing the ryan camp has pushed hard for is to have this debate be a sit-down debate and once he sits down at
how ryan prepped for the big night, and what are the main goals for romney and ryan's camp? what are they, and what do they want to say? let's go to robert costa from the national review online danville, cnbc contributor. the debate sunday way. bob costa as you talked to the romney/ryan people today, what phrases jump out? what do you think he wants to get across in at least a minimal way? >> they want to defend mitt romney's positions. they want to go after the obama economic record and...
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making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but i've got to say joe biden said the intelligence didn't tell them anything. the state department knew in real time that this had nothing to do with spontaneous protests about the video. that's point number one. point number two, biden said last night that he did not know or that there was no request from the state department for extra security in the benghazi consulate. the reality is, we have all learned, they made not one, not two, but five requests for additional security which were all turned down at the white house and the national security council. biden -- i think you and jennifer raise a lot of good points that absolutely should be checked in days to come, but you know, larry, you have to check both sides. i didn't like your introduction. we'll check biden's lies and it's lefshlgity mat to fact check and let's not call people liars. >> look at what the obama administration has done. >> it's three against one so give me fair time. >>
making this an issue. >> that last thing, blaming the romney-ryan ticket. i'll give the case to the defense to you, but i've got to say joe biden said the intelligence didn't tell them anything. the state department knew in real time that this had nothing to do with spontaneous protests about the video. that's point number one. point number two, biden said last night that he did not know or that there was no request from the state department for extra security in the benghazi consulate....
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governor romney, the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> congressman ryan? >> we mourn the loss of these four americans who were murdered. when you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks, they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a youtube video. it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. he went to the u.n. and in his speech at the u.n. he said six times he talked about the youtube video. look, if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it is, a terrorist attack. our ambassador in paris has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place where we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troubling by the day. first blame the youtube video and now trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. with respect to iraq we have the same position before the withdraw which was we agreed with the obama administration, let's have a force agreement t
governor romney, the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> congressman ryan? >> we mourn the loss of these four americans who were murdered. when you take a look at what has happened just in the last few weeks, they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a youtube video. it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. he went to the u.n. and in his speech at the u.n. he said six times he talked...
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on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy experience at all. >> i'm waiting for joe biden appear par thid division of iraq. it's not true. ryan has made had trips abroad including the middle east. >> they did fund-raiser abroad, too. >> i didn't know that. >> they did in london. >> i think joe biden will be very formidable. i think the challenge for paul ryan in the debate is he has to come across in complete control of the facts. when you see a 27-age year difference between these two, it's very easy for a young person like ryan to get schooled by the senior biden. he can't let that happen. at the same time he's got to be respectful
on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy...
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congressman ryan and vice president biden, just like president obama and governor romney, have really, there's really stark differences in this campaign about what's going to go forward. if you just watch the republican convention and the democratic conventi convention, there's very different views of the future of the country so how that gets discussed will depend a lot on all three players on the stage, but i think the main thing is there are stark differences going forward and congressman ryan i think is obviously a very smart person, 14 years as a member of congress, i think probably the leading spokesperson for the republican party on budget and economic issues, he spent a lot of time in congress and one thing he learned in congress is how to debate. you debate in the committees, you debate on the floor, so he's going to be a formidable challenge and i think he and vice president biden have enough differences and reflect the differences of the campaign that it will be a very i think substantive debate, i think it will be a very fun debate though. >> ted, i was surprised at the fi
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i think that paul ryan's youth really makes a positive impression, for the younger voters that romney needs but just in general. the contrast between ryan and biden is going to be enormous. >> well, particularly after the string of gaffes that we've seen from biden. he is sort of like the doddering old uncle you keep hidden away in the closet. but he's going to come out swinging and he's going to come out with a lot of one-liners. he might to bring in the personal side like he did against palin. but this entire campaign has shifted. it's very focused right now on ideas, on the defense of the ideas, bold ideas, as romney articulated last week. he changed the whole narrative. the obama campaign's effort to undermine it by these silly attacks, republicans can't stand young people, they want to kick them off their parents' health care, they want to go after women, the war on women. and now the new option, they're going after big bird, oh, my gosh. it's silly. >> when paul ryan says that the fullest extent of his experience in foreign policy is that he's voted to send people to war, when y
i think that paul ryan's youth really makes a positive impression, for the younger voters that romney needs but just in general. the contrast between ryan and biden is going to be enormous. >> well, particularly after the string of gaffes that we've seen from biden. he is sort of like the doddering old uncle you keep hidden away in the closet. but he's going to come out swinging and he's going to come out with a lot of one-liners. he might to bring in the personal side like he did against...
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and, of course, the romney campaign emphasizing that paul ryan is a guy who hasn't had a debate, maybe since high school. so he's debating against joe biden. >> debated -- we've tried to debate ryan here and we've seen him debate with other people, and he's -- i don't know. >> eamon, what about ohio, though? we've talked with chuck todd about this. he sees a way to win without ohio. but basically have to win eight or nine other states. so it's a much more complicated road to the white house if you don't win ohio. so he had said -- he told us a week or two ago that romney would have to make a decision as to whether the pull out of ohio and go for the other states. >> on a couple of polls. >> yeah, it's off the table at this point. >> that's got to be off the table right now. ohio is the linchpin for everything in this campaign. that's why the president was there yesterday. you saw the president leading in o-h-i-o cheer. he needs the college kids to come through for him. he needs the urban cities in ohio to turn out with big, big numbers. otherwise this thing gets very tricky for the pre
and, of course, the romney campaign emphasizing that paul ryan is a guy who hasn't had a debate, maybe since high school. so he's debating against joe biden. >> debated -- we've tried to debate ryan here and we've seen him debate with other people, and he's -- i don't know. >> eamon, what about ohio, though? we've talked with chuck todd about this. he sees a way to win without ohio. but basically have to win eight or nine other states. so it's a much more complicated road to the...
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plus, paul ryan blames mitt romney's tax plan adds up. even says it's been done before. a fact check coming up. >>> and a teenage girl bullied posted a desperate cry on the internet. just a month later, she's dead. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. nature valley trail mix bars are made with real ingredients you can see. like whole roasted nuts, chewy granola, and real fruit. nature valley trail mix bars. 100% natural. 100% delicious. [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multi-vitamin designed for men's health con
plus, paul ryan blames mitt romney's tax plan adds up. even says it's been done before. a fact check coming up. >>> and a teenage girl bullied posted a desperate cry on the internet. just a month later, she's dead. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and...
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certainly it's in favor of the romney-ryan ticket. why is there all of this boxing terminology going on? well, take a look at this. this is one of the posters here for sale at center college. this is being set up with a lot of boxing terminology. perhaps that's part of it. also, suzanne, i wanted to tell you a little bit about that photo that we put up there earlier. if we can show that again because that's something that only cnn has. you can only see it right here. it's an exclusive look. >> if you don't recognize the guy on the right, that is chris van holland. he is the ranking democrat. the top democrat on the house budget committee. he knows paul ryan because he is the budget chairman of that committee. you're seeing the back of the head of shayla murray. that is the communications director for the vice president. >> she's been playing martha are aedditz. the biden team went to great lengths to replicate the conditions that the vice president will face here in danville, kentucky. that table, which is a semicircle with a small ci
certainly it's in favor of the romney-ryan ticket. why is there all of this boxing terminology going on? well, take a look at this. this is one of the posters here for sale at center college. this is being set up with a lot of boxing terminology. perhaps that's part of it. also, suzanne, i wanted to tell you a little bit about that photo that we put up there earlier. if we can show that again because that's something that only cnn has. you can only see it right here. it's an exclusive look....
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the idea in general is to tie governor mitt romney -- sorry, tie governor romney to the ryan budget. and as one top democrat put it to me, the idea is to make the case that romney/ryan in electing that ticket means americans would be electing the intellectual leader of the house republicans, as one person put it, that paul ryan is the intellectual leader of the house republicans and he should not be able tonight to duck from any specifics. so, again, we will hear that word, specifics. and look for the vice president to try to get paul ryan to talk about budget details in this debate tonight, wolf. >> jessica, has the vice president done his tour of the actual debate hall yet? >> reporter: he has. he did that tour a little earlier today before 2:00 p.m. he sat in the chair. he looked at the monitor where you get your time cues. and i'm told all that went smoothly. he also before he boarded the plane today leaving from delaware he talked to reporters and he was asked what is his strategy. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm looking forward to it. nice of you guys to be here. are you
the idea in general is to tie governor mitt romney -- sorry, tie governor romney to the ryan budget. and as one top democrat put it to me, the idea is to make the case that romney/ryan in electing that ticket means americans would be electing the intellectual leader of the house republicans, as one person put it, that paul ryan is the intellectual leader of the house republicans and he should not be able tonight to duck from any specifics. so, again, we will hear that word, specifics. and look...
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now if you bring on the romney/ryan plan, the landscape is just the same. they have the same increase. they also want to reduce it by about 10%, but they want to rely on the private sector, not government, to get that done. in a word, they're going for vouchers. they don't like calling it vouchers but that's really what it is. right now if you're on medicare what happens is that the government pays medicare. medicare pays the hospital. the hospital takes care of you. under this plan, the government would pay you and you would decide if you wanted to buy into medicare or into private insurance that will create competition between the two and their theory and that is how you get at that very same waste that the white house wants to get out. these are two very complicated, huge programs. there are critics on both sides who say this plan won't work or that plan won't work or this plan will leave people strand or that plan will leave people stranded. the truth is, it is complicated. it's hard to deal with all of that. if we go to this basic claim that both sides
now if you bring on the romney/ryan plan, the landscape is just the same. they have the same increase. they also want to reduce it by about 10%, but they want to rely on the private sector, not government, to get that done. in a word, they're going for vouchers. they don't like calling it vouchers but that's really what it is. right now if you're on medicare what happens is that the government pays medicare. medicare pays the hospital. the hospital takes care of you. under this plan, the...
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. >> the first two debates were paul ryan, mitt romney. the numbers that i have have shown a significant movement in the senior vote, but we're also, you know -- look, since 1952 dwight eisenhower there have been 15 presidential elections. democrats have won four. each one of those four johnson, carter, clinton, and obama have been won by people who eventually won the election. in florida he is behind. i mean, obama. if he is behind in florida, according to florida history, he is not going to win the general election. >> let's get this straight on medicare. the $700 billion plus that al and other republicans speak about coming out of medicare just so all of florida seniors knows, that's coming out of insurance companies and providers who are charging too much. >> providers are -- but, okay, let me just -- i don't want to get into the weeds on this number because nobody ever comes to an agreement on it, but a provider is a doctor, and what we know is that those folks on medicare have to struggle sometimes to find a doctor who will accept me
. >> the first two debates were paul ryan, mitt romney. the numbers that i have have shown a significant movement in the senior vote, but we're also, you know -- look, since 1952 dwight eisenhower there have been 15 presidential elections. democrats have won four. each one of those four johnson, carter, clinton, and obama have been won by people who eventually won the election. in florida he is behind. i mean, obama. if he is behind in florida, according to florida history, he is not...
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never mind an overhaul, so mitt romney and paul ryan need to get more specific. robert reich served as secretary as labor, mark mckinnon advised the clinton campaign. chris christie is a well-known romney surrogate. i remember when he was running for governor of new jersey and a lot of people thought there's no way he can win. i'm not going to tell you what i'm going to cut. i'm going the get the list, get in office and do it. he won and "the new york times" wrote voters embrace d mr. christie, though he offered no detail on how he would fix the state's problems. can this strategy work for mitt romney when it comes to his tax plan? >> well, first of all, as the cofounder of no labels, i like the idea of bringing the congress together and to negotiate bringing these solutions together with the president involved. now, that said, there are realities. i think bold solutions are required. now, i'm not an economist and having me talk about tax policy is like having paris hilton explain -- >> that's rather aggressive analogy, by the way. keep going. >> well, they laid
never mind an overhaul, so mitt romney and paul ryan need to get more specific. robert reich served as secretary as labor, mark mckinnon advised the clinton campaign. chris christie is a well-known romney surrogate. i remember when he was running for governor of new jersey and a lot of people thought there's no way he can win. i'm not going to tell you what i'm going to cut. i'm going the get the list, get in office and do it. he won and "the new york times" wrote voters embrace d mr....
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they first blamed the youtube video and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. >> so joining me now with their take on all of this, ben smith is the editor in chief of the content website buzz feed and then to his right in san francisco is cnn contributor and anchor of "real news," amy holmes. let me start with you, ben since you're sitting right beside me. that was a big issue and this has been a contentious debate and the white house has been taking it on the chin over what happened in libya, and it seemed to some that either the vice president wasn't sure of his semantics when he said we didn't know they needed more security or it seemed to others he knew that the white house didn't have that information right away, but it's all about the optics. how did they come off last night on this very critical foreign policy issue. >> that struck me as biden's worst moment, and i don't know if joe biden personally knew about barack obama, and there had been a h
they first blamed the youtube video and now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. >> so joining me now with their take on all of this, ben smith is the editor in chief of the content website buzz feed and then to his right in san francisco is cnn contributor and anchor of "real news," amy holmes. let me start with you, ben since you're sitting...
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he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure chemical weapons. they are right about that. what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters. we should not have called assaad -- >> we should not wait for russia to give us the green light. they are still arming the man. iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the gr
he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure chemical weapons. they are right about that. what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters. we should not have called assaad -- >> we should not wait for russia to give us the green light. they are still arming the man. iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and...
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paul ryan and mitt romney want to cut spending for it. a closer look now. ♪ i love to groove to the music tap out a beat ♪ >> reporter: big bird is getting all the attention but team romney has bigger thargts get more troll money. >> we subsidize thing likes amtrak. we have to stop doing that. >> reporter: amtrak gets roughly $1.4 billion a year in federal subsidies. three times more than pbs. this issue is putting vice presidential candidates paul ryan and joe biden on different tracks when it comes to funding for the rails. >> i'm the biggest railroad guy you ever knew. >> reporter: biden made more than 7,900 trips from wilmington, delaware to washington, d.c. during his time on capitol hill. the station in his home state rename afrd him last year. [ cheers and applause ] and in 2009, the newly elected democrats rode the rails into washington, d.c. for their inauguration. ryan's budget plan cuts federal subsidies for amtrak and high-speed rail projects. republicans favor privatizing the industry instead. >> the path to prosperity is
paul ryan and mitt romney want to cut spending for it. a closer look now. ♪ i love to groove to the music tap out a beat ♪ >> reporter: big bird is getting all the attention but team romney has bigger thargts get more troll money. >> we subsidize thing likes amtrak. we have to stop doing that. >> reporter: amtrak gets roughly $1.4 billion a year in federal subsidies. three times more than pbs. this issue is putting vice presidential candidates paul ryan and joe biden on...
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he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure those chemical weapons. they are right about that, but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents in syria. we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer, and we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they are still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq. >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar al assad and by the way if we had the status forces agreement that the vice president said he'd bet his vice presidency on in iraq we'd probably be able to achieve that but he failed to achieve that again. >> >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the g
he mentioned the reset. >> what would romney/ryan do? >> we agree with the same redline that they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in, other than to secure those chemical weapons. they are right about that, but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents in syria. we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer, and we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about...
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look, he mentioned the reset -- >> what would romney-ryan do? >> we agree with the same red line they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in other than to secure those chemical weapons. they're right about that. but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer? >> what's your criteria -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about this. >> russia -- >> they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq -- >> and the opposition is being harmed. >> to help bashar assad. by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iran, we probably could have prevented that, but he failed to achieve that as well. >> let me ask you quickly what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian interests? >>
look, he mentioned the reset -- >> what would romney-ryan do? >> we agree with the same red line they do on chemical weapons, but not putting american troops in other than to secure those chemical weapons. they're right about that. but what we should have done earlier is work with those freedom fighters, those dissidents. we should not have called bashar assad a reformer? >> what's your criteria -- >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the...
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paul ryan is talking about what potentially a romney/ryan ticket would have done differently if they had been in charge, identify rebel groups, identify freedom fighters, perhaps help those that the united states might want to push forward as far as the future leadership of syria is concerned a little bit earlier than the obama administration has. but as far as plans for what happens from this point on, no. and there is no appetite from the united states or quite frankly any country in the western world for boots on the ground in syria. as we heard from the vice president, joe biden, this is not libya. it is a much more complicated scenario. >> i want to get to the libya comparison in a minute. ryan claimed that the administration referred to assad as a reformer. a reformer. to your best -- >> no, this has been -- it has not. this has been fact checked by several sources including cnn. the word reformer was used by hillary clinton in march of 2011. and in reference to bashar al assad. many of the members of congress of both parties she said have gone it syria in recent months said th
paul ryan is talking about what potentially a romney/ryan ticket would have done differently if they had been in charge, identify rebel groups, identify freedom fighters, perhaps help those that the united states might want to push forward as far as the future leadership of syria is concerned a little bit earlier than the obama administration has. but as far as plans for what happens from this point on, no. and there is no appetite from the united states or quite frankly any country in the...
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mitt romney is trying to and paul ryan doing this, trying to hide their positions. they want to go on national tv and debates with big audiences and pretend they haven't taken these stances but i think the american people need to understand, you know, there is a man behind the curtain and we do need to pay attention to that person because that's mitt romney. that's the real mitt romney. that's the mitt romney that's proposed all of these things. and people need to understand what it means for their lives for middle class families, the taxes go up. for people like mitt romney, their taxes go down. it's a theory that's not going to create jobs in the country. >> robert, thanks very much for coming in. >> thanks, wolf. >> robert begins from the obama campaign. kate baldwin is here, as well. we got a very different perspective than the last hour. >> i was just going to say that. i think we are getting -- at least seeing some of the lines of attack to see tomorrow night, something. >> setting the stage for the debate. >> that's absolutely right. just to remind our viewer
mitt romney is trying to and paul ryan doing this, trying to hide their positions. they want to go on national tv and debates with big audiences and pretend they haven't taken these stances but i think the american people need to understand, you know, there is a man behind the curtain and we do need to pay attention to that person because that's mitt romney. that's the real mitt romney. that's the mitt romney that's proposed all of these things. and people need to understand what it means for...
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i think romney and ryan are going too much partisanship. i think the one who wins the independent is a candidate. i'm really going to work with people and i've done it as vp, president and senator. >> i so hope we get to see biden, tomorrow. joe, if you're listening, be yourself. give us some jokes. give us some off color. >> i don't think he can. >> give us some gaffes. >> people like joe biden. >> they do. >> america likes joe biden. >> i like joe biden. >> by the way, joe six-pack white dudes who watch football like joe biden. >> even my dad likes joe biden. we're out of time. thanks so much. another brilliant conversation. i want to thank wolf blitzer for letting us hang out in his "the situation room." now back to wolf. >> excellent unsolicited advice pete and company. thanks very much. >>> the republican vice presidential hopeful paul ryan sat down exclusively with cnn. up next, how his hunting routine might help him in tomorrow night's debate. and new allegations about lance armstrong's links to doping. c-max has a nice little trait,
i think romney and ryan are going too much partisanship. i think the one who wins the independent is a candidate. i'm really going to work with people and i've done it as vp, president and senator. >> i so hope we get to see biden, tomorrow. joe, if you're listening, be yourself. give us some jokes. give us some off color. >> i don't think he can. >> give us some gaffes. >> people like joe biden. >> they do. >> america likes joe biden. >> i like joe...
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ryan will try to keep romney's mittmentum going. dark there in kentucky, we hear, a little cold. so the new polls are out. is it a little good news for mitt romney? >> reporter: yeah, it is. it's continuing this trend we've seen over the last couple of days and that's what makes this debate so important. there is some momentum for mitt romney coming out of that first debate. we've seen a bounce in the national polls and in those crucial swing states. take a look at these. you mentioned these from "wall street journal" and marist, just out in the last few hours. let's look in virginia, where it's dead even. mitt romney at 48%, barack obama, 47%. that's a slight switch from a week ago. let's move on to florida. same story, pretty much. look at the president, 48%, mitt romney, 47%. that's about as close as you can get. it was just as close a week ago. and in ohio, the president still has an advantage there, but it is a little bit tighter than it was a week ago before the denver debate. how do americans feel about the two guys we'll meet tonight from this debate? look at this from pe
ryan will try to keep romney's mittmentum going. dark there in kentucky, we hear, a little cold. so the new polls are out. is it a little good news for mitt romney? >> reporter: yeah, it is. it's continuing this trend we've seen over the last couple of days and that's what makes this debate so important. there is some momentum for mitt romney coming out of that first debate. we've seen a bounce in the national polls and in those crucial swing states. take a look at these. you mentioned...
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i'm very excited to vote for the romney/ryan ticket. i believe that obama has been a terrible president and am worried for my family if he's reelected. this from david, i'm super excited to vote for obama. i don't trust romney. i don't think romney cares about me. this from steve. seems that it's not so much that i'm voting for someone. i'm always voting against someone. facebook.com/carolcnn. please continue the conversation. >>> you can't drive 55, well, no one else can either. instead of providing more money and man power to enforce the law, many politicians across the country are upping the speed limit big time. according to the governor's highway safety association seven states, kansas, kentucky, maine, ohio, pennsylvania, texas and virginia have increased speed limits to as high as 85 miles per hour on certain roads. maybe you're saying it is about time. consider this. there is no doubt excessive speed kills. if you have a need for speed, highway 130 near austin, texas, is where you have to be. later this fall posted legal speed l
i'm very excited to vote for the romney/ryan ticket. i believe that obama has been a terrible president and am worried for my family if he's reelected. this from david, i'm super excited to vote for obama. i don't trust romney. i don't think romney cares about me. this from steve. seems that it's not so much that i'm voting for someone. i'm always voting against someone. facebook.com/carolcnn. please continue the conversation. >>> you can't drive 55, well, no one else can either....
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. >>> tonight, romney, gaining in poll after poll. >>> by the way, i think paul ryan will do great. >> could joe biden versus paul ryan do well? background america, the administration in the hot seat over the deadly attack in libya. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. >> mitt romney charged with flip-flopping again on abortion. >> i'll be a pro life president. >> frank bruni, my all-star candidate, going toe to toe. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening, 27 days to go until the election, look where we stand tonight, on the latest cnn polls, 47% for mitt romney, 47% for president obama. anything could happen in this race, shows you how high the stakes are going into the presidential debate. preparations are under way in danville, kentucky, and joe biden is getting ready for preparations. and paul ryan arrived, and mitt romney on the campaign trail in the battleground state of ohio. >> we have not had the strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenge, time and again, the president has told us he'd take on se of these things but has not
. >>> tonight, romney, gaining in poll after poll. >>> by the way, i think paul ryan will do great. >> could joe biden versus paul ryan do well? background america, the administration in the hot seat over the deadly attack in libya. >> it was a terrorist attack. let's be honest about it. >> mitt romney charged with flip-flopping again on abortion. >> i'll be a pro life president. >> frank bruni, my all-star candidate, going toe to toe. this is...
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/ryan budget when it hits the ground, he's going to lose. he's just not going to be able to carry enough independent voters. as i said on top of the auto rescue, we have people that have actually felt the obama policies help them. right down the supply chain in the auto industry here, you can go to places like the logistics company, the trucking company, the seat manufacturer, all the way down the line have benefited and they know, i was out at the plant gate the other day, they know it was obama sticking his neck out in 2009 to make sure that gm didn't go bankrupt and the autos didn't go bankrupt. >> i will be curious -- >> romney was on the wrong side of that. >> curious to see how the polling does when there is a good -- right? we're too close to the debate, we didn't have the good post-debate polls in the state of ohio yet to really flush that out. >> any swing state poll after the debate, except in colorado, which still shows obama with a four-point be edge there? >> in ohio we were in the field before the debate and i was in cincinnati
/ryan budget when it hits the ground, he's going to lose. he's just not going to be able to carry enough independent voters. as i said on top of the auto rescue, we have people that have actually felt the obama policies help them. right down the supply chain in the auto industry here, you can go to places like the logistics company, the trucking company, the seat manufacturer, all the way down the line have benefited and they know, i was out at the plant gate the other day, they know it was...
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and paul ryan arrived, and mitt romney on the campaign trail in the battleground state of ohio. >> we have not had the strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenge, time and again, the president has told us he'd take on some of these things but has not. and then he turns around and tries to blame others, congress won't get together, congress won't get together unless there is a strong leadership that puts them together. he has not, i will. >> listen to what he told diane sawyer on abc. >> if you have a bad game, you just move on, move on the next one. and it makes you that much more determined. the difference between this and sports is, the stakes are so high. >> joining me now, to preview the debate, reince priebus. >> the president looks mean there, looking like he is coming back strong, looks like he had a poor game and flexing his muscles, are you frightened? >> no, he also said today that he thinks he has been too polite. so maybe it means instead of just calling mitt romney a liar once a day, he will call us that five times a day. i don't know, his message
and paul ryan arrived, and mitt romney on the campaign trail in the battleground state of ohio. >> we have not had the strong leadership we needed in washington to take on our challenge, time and again, the president has told us he'd take on some of these things but has not. and then he turns around and tries to blame others, congress won't get together, congress won't get together unless there is a strong leadership that puts them together. he has not, i will. >> listen to what he...
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. >> have you heard from mitt romney at all? >> yes. well, not mitt romney. paul ryan. >> paul ryan rang you? >> yes, he did. >> what did he say? >> he said thank you so much for your support and that i was brave and that they support me. and i thought that was just so generous and kind, you know. lovely, really. >> any of the obama campaign been up? >> no, they haven't. >> what does it say to you about the state of the political discourse and debate in america that one innocuous tweet from you, purely because you're an actress and the color of your skin, sparked this kind of mayhem? >> i think it tells me that our state -- the state of our country is that we are not united. we need to be united. and we all need to understand that we are all capable of achieving the american dream. and you know, but that has to be something that is self-realized. and also, to demonize someone for achieving the american dream is unfair. >> i'm told you have a 22-year-old son which i find very hard to believe. >> yes. >> but you do, apparently, who wasn't that happy either with
. >> have you heard from mitt romney at all? >> yes. well, not mitt romney. paul ryan. >> paul ryan rang you? >> yes, he did. >> what did he say? >> he said thank you so much for your support and that i was brave and that they support me. and i thought that was just so generous and kind, you know. lovely, really. >> any of the obama campaign been up? >> no, they haven't. >> what does it say to you about the state of the political discourse...
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/ryan budget. you're looking at billions of dollars and less in investments in the states. about $4.5 billion less a year in ohio and in virginia alone. they're going to have to go out to constituents and explain why they're raising taxes or cutting benefits. huge implications for state and local budgets based on what's decided this year. and that's often what really hits the kitchen table more. >> i see you voted today. >> i did vote in virginia today. >> who did you vote for? that's the question. >> for president obama and for governor kaye. >> i'll take a more apolitical attack. bud selig and the powers that be in major league baseball. we had the debut of the one-game wild card playoff. baseball added an extra wild card this year. the very first game, the braves versus the cardinals, ended up being decided by a blown umpire's call in the eighth inning. and fans were throwing garbage on the field and it was a lousy error-ridden game to begin with. bud selig, this is a sign from the baseball gods
/ryan budget. you're looking at billions of dollars and less in investments in the states. about $4.5 billion less a year in ohio and in virginia alone. they're going to have to go out to constituents and explain why they're raising taxes or cutting benefits. huge implications for state and local budgets based on what's decided this year. and that's often what really hits the kitchen table more. >> i see you voted today. >> i did vote in virginia today. >> who did you vote...
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romney's running mate paul ryan is headed to danville, kentucky, where the debate will take place. of course, you can watch the vice presidential debate live tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern on cnn and on cnn.com. it will be interesting, to say the least. >> absolutely, it will be. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," affirmative action, the supreme court is taking up that racially charged issue. up next, we're going to talk to a university president who was the last to look into this issue in front of the supreme court. columbia university professor lee bollinger. president, for give me. i just demoted him. >>> and shocking and disturbing video. suv slams into a man. look at that. oh, my goodness. crossing the street. sends him ten feet in the air. >>> plus, a look at business. christine? >> yeah, if you drive a toyota, enormous, enormous global recall under way. what you need to know if you're driving a toyota next. you're watching "starting point." when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their s
romney's running mate paul ryan is headed to danville, kentucky, where the debate will take place. of course, you can watch the vice presidential debate live tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern on cnn and on cnn.com. it will be interesting, to say the least. >> absolutely, it will be. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," affirmative action, the supreme court is taking up that racially charged issue. up next, we're going to talk to a university president who...
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debate, though, doesn't walk away from the very record and platform that have so been a part of the romney-ryan campaign. >> so the pressure on both candidates after last week's debate, however, what many saw as president obama's lackluster performance. the vice president, joe biden, really feeling the heat now. at least that's how the folks at "snl" see it. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? it's tivo time. >> and this reminder, can you watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn. joe biden and paul ryan go at it thursday. our coverage beginning at 7:00 eastern. here's what we're working on for this hour. >> more people have come down with a dangerous form of meningitis all because of contaminated steroid shots. it turns out the fda does not regulate the company that supplied the drug and many others like it. we'll explain why. >>> a congressional report warns two chinese telecommunications companies operating in the u.s. pose a threat to national security. >>> and adair devil sky diver is getting ready to break world record
debate, though, doesn't walk away from the very record and platform that have so been a part of the romney-ryan campaign. >> so the pressure on both candidates after last week's debate, however, what many saw as president obama's lackluster performance. the vice president, joe biden, really feeling the heat now. at least that's how the folks at "snl" see it. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? it's tivo time....
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the issues, and governor romney has embraced at least everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that's not completely accurate. >> reporter: so what are the candidates' biggest strengths? analysts say for ryan it's his ability to speak in detail about policy issues. for biden, his ease in talking about how national policies affect ordinary people. here is congressman ryan's take on biden. >> he's fast on the cuff, he's a witty guy, he knows who he is and he's been doing this for 40 years. you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good at trying to confuse the issues. >> reporter: when it comes to advice for the candidates? >> try to be comfortable in your skin, be rested, look into the camera, smile from time to time. >> reporter: and a little humor always helps. >> i can see my wife and i think she's thinking, gee, i wish you would go out into the private sector. i'm goi >> i'm going to try to help you do that, joe. >> athena jones. >> vice president biden and congressman paul ryan get their turn
the issues, and governor romney has embraced at least everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that's not completely accurate. >> reporter: so what are the candidates' biggest strengths? analysts say for ryan it's his ability to speak in detail about policy issues. for biden, his ease in talking about how national policies affect ordinary people. here is congressman ryan's take on biden. >> he's fast on the cuff, he's a witty guy, he knows who he is and he's...
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if mitt romney loses, paul ryan is an early front-runner for republicans. if barack obama wins, joe biden is telling people yes, i might be getting up there in age, but i feel great. i might run. >> let's talk about joe biden for a minute. remember last time they said you don't want to come off as condescending to sarah palin or even sexist. does the same thing aplay here? obviously not the sexist part, but condescending to someone younger than him for a paul ryan who seems to be new? does that challenge exist in this particular debate? >> reporter: well, i think that challenge exists in every debate. certainly it was different to have, you know, you're having a man debating a woman. that's a different calculation. but you don't want to be smug in any debate. it was interesting, you know, a lot of people after the first presidential debate thought the president was disinterested. the president was detached. i was interviewing suburban women yesterday. one of them said, you know, mitt romney won on points, but i thought he was smug. i thought he was disrespe
if mitt romney loses, paul ryan is an early front-runner for republicans. if barack obama wins, joe biden is telling people yes, i might be getting up there in age, but i feel great. i might run. >> let's talk about joe biden for a minute. remember last time they said you don't want to come off as condescending to sarah palin or even sexist. does the same thing aplay here? obviously not the sexist part, but condescending to someone younger than him for a paul ryan who seems to be new?...
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choice as paul ryan as running mate. depends what side of the political aisle you stand on. keeping them honest, each debater had moments that didn't quite stand up to closer scrutiny. first, paul ryan on the stimulus, which vice president biden called him on. >> they said that right now if we just passed the stimulus, the economy would grow at 4%. it's growing at 1.3. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters but go on our website, he sent me two letters saying by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent millions of dollars. you know why -- >> you did ask for stimulus money, correct? >> sure he did. >> on two occasions we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. we do that for all constituents applying for grants. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program and he writes me a letter saying -- writes the department of energy a letter saying the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jo
choice as paul ryan as running mate. depends what side of the political aisle you stand on. keeping them honest, each debater had moments that didn't quite stand up to closer scrutiny. first, paul ryan on the stimulus, which vice president biden called him on. >> they said that right now if we just passed the stimulus, the economy would grow at 4%. it's growing at 1.3. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters but go on our website, he sent me two letters saying by...
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he has been studying that ryan plan even though it's not a romney plan, and mitt romney has sort of distanced himself a bit from some things that are in the ryan plan. you can just sort of see biden planning to kind of tie the two of them together around a plan and say, look, this is not for the middle class. it will ruin the middle class, and you know that's coming. >> you're moderating the second presidential debate coming up on october 16th, which is very exciting for all of us here at cnn. how are you preparing? >> oh, man. every way i can. you know, i'm listening. we have a great team, the folks you never see on the camera here at cnn, that bring me research stuff that say, hey, there's this, there's that, here's the other thing. it's a little bit of everything, and you're also just sort of while this builds up, and the president will go out and do this. you're just trying to maintain a kind of zen level here so when you go out, it's just a good substantive debate and exchange between the two guys. >> well, we're excited for you. we know you'll do a great job, candy. thank you very much.
he has been studying that ryan plan even though it's not a romney plan, and mitt romney has sort of distanced himself a bit from some things that are in the ryan plan. you can just sort of see biden planning to kind of tie the two of them together around a plan and say, look, this is not for the middle class. it will ruin the middle class, and you know that's coming. >> you're moderating the second presidential debate coming up on october 16th, which is very exciting for all of us here at...
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the romney team has put out a new ad based on the debate between joe biden and paul ryan. i want to play a little bit of that. >> we can't keep spending and borrowing like this. we can't keep spending money we don't have. did they come in in a very tough situation? absolutely. but we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. >> so, ana, is the biden laugh now part of this narrative? >> i think so, john. you know, i think there's something very interesting that has happened here. look, that debate, the vice presidential debate, really there was no great memorable line. there was no unforgettable gaffes. the only memorable thing about it was the sarcastic, continuous interruptions, laughs, smirks, by joe biden. and as the days have gone by, it's almost, you know, permeated the narrative that much more. it's grown, not gotten less, in the last few days. it's what comedians have used for fodder. so yes, i think it is a big issue, and it is bothering a lot of people. >> one of the things that we also hear from both of these debates, ana, to be fair, is the lack of
the romney team has put out a new ad based on the debate between joe biden and paul ryan. i want to play a little bit of that. >> we can't keep spending and borrowing like this. we can't keep spending money we don't have. did they come in in a very tough situation? absolutely. but we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. >> so, ana, is the biden laugh now part of this narrative? >> i think so, john. you know, i think there's something very interesting that has...
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a lot of pressure on ryan not to screw things up now that romney has some momentum. >> i think elections are one big cake and every ingredient matters. >> that's true. >> it's to determine what specific things actually make a difference. day in and day out we talk about these things having monumental effect. it's hard to know in hindsight what matter. >> you should watch all of it right here on cnn. stay with cnn for the vice presidential debate on thursday night. our coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. >> let's get you up to date on this morning's top stories. jerry sandusky faces life behind bars when he's sentenced in just over two hours. the former penn state football coach released an audiotape from prison yesterday proclaiming his innocence. he also blamed his child sex abuse convictions on his victims and what he called a well-orchestrated conspiracy. >> the nobel prize for physics have been awarded. serge haroche and david wineland for their work in measuring and manipulating individual particles by preserve their quantum nature. >> the owner of a liquor store in california was nearly k
a lot of pressure on ryan not to screw things up now that romney has some momentum. >> i think elections are one big cake and every ingredient matters. >> that's true. >> it's to determine what specific things actually make a difference. day in and day out we talk about these things having monumental effect. it's hard to know in hindsight what matter. >> you should watch all of it right here on cnn. stay with cnn for the vice presidential debate on thursday night. our...
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. >> while mitt romney is prepping for debate number two, paul ryan, his running mate, is out stumping on the campaign trail. here he is live in cincinnati, ohio. in case you have forgotten, ohio has 18 electoral votes. that's what's at stake in this state, and it's an important one. as we've said before, no republican has won the white house without winning there, so a quick stop at the airport in cincinnati, ohio, for paul ryan as he moves ahead from his vice presidential debate last week. what should we now expect from the president and from mitt romney? tomorrow night as they head into debate number two. earlier i talked with our own wolf blitzer about what to look for in this debate and what each candidate needs to do. >> we always know that incumbents don't particularly perform well in the first debate. is there a template for the second debate? do we have some history to show us what they need to do, what they often do, and how that works out for them? >> well, we know in the first debate when he was an incumbent, ronald reagan, back in 1984, being challenged by walter mondale,
. >> while mitt romney is prepping for debate number two, paul ryan, his running mate, is out stumping on the campaign trail. here he is live in cincinnati, ohio. in case you have forgotten, ohio has 18 electoral votes. that's what's at stake in this state, and it's an important one. as we've said before, no republican has won the white house without winning there, so a quick stop at the airport in cincinnati, ohio, for paul ryan as he moves ahead from his vice presidential debate last...
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that's biden versus ryan here. a week from tomorrow, obama versus romney. and then those two again, two weeks from today, that's the final debate before the election. so mitt romney to the, he gave this 20-minute speech on foreign policy. not exactly one of romney's stronger suits thus far. take a look at yet another poll here. the question being better on foreign policy shows him trailing the president by seven points on that one specifically. wolf blitzer, let's talk to you about all of this. joining me live from washington here. and we'll listen in a moment to that speech from mitt romney at vmi. let me ask you this, why a foreign policy speech this late in the election campaign? do you think he sees some sort of opening here? >> yes, i think that the killing of the american ambassador and three other americans in benghazi, libya, the consulate there, and the confusion surrounding the administration's explanation for what happened, the condemnation by some has given him a clear opening. take a look at what is happening throughout north africa and the mid
that's biden versus ryan here. a week from tomorrow, obama versus romney. and then those two again, two weeks from today, that's the final debate before the election. so mitt romney to the, he gave this 20-minute speech on foreign policy. not exactly one of romney's stronger suits thus far. take a look at yet another poll here. the question being better on foreign policy shows him trailing the president by seven points on that one specifically. wolf blitzer, let's talk to you about all of this....
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let's make sure -- >> paul ryan campaigned this morning in his home state of wisconsin, talked up the packers, talked up mitt romney and reminded supporters that wisconsin has developed a habit of voting democratic. we will talk about how wisconsin may prove crucial here. >> we have republicans trying to redefine rape. >> trying to force women to undergo invasive ultrasounds. >> if -- >> scarlett johansson fronting this new ad geared toward women, actress kelly washington and eva longoria appear in the pro obama spot sponsored by moveon.org. >> he has to be more energetic. you'll see someone very passionate about the -- >> looking ahead to tomorrow night's debate, the president's supporters were looking for more oomph. team obama set up camp in williamsburg, virginia, there is the president with some pizza, stopping by to thank volunteers. and within just these past couple of hours we have adjusted our cnn poll of polls. let me show that to you now. and as you will see here in a second, as of this moment, it is showing a one-point lead for mitt romney. but take a look at this one. was
let's make sure -- >> paul ryan campaigned this morning in his home state of wisconsin, talked up the packers, talked up mitt romney and reminded supporters that wisconsin has developed a habit of voting democratic. we will talk about how wisconsin may prove crucial here. >> we have republicans trying to redefine rape. >> trying to force women to undergo invasive ultrasounds. >> if -- >> scarlett johansson fronting this new ad geared toward women, actress kelly...
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of course thursday the vice presidential debate, joe biden, paul ryan. cnn special live coverage starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern, 4:00 pacific. >>> former penn state assistant football coach jerry sandusky will likely spend the rest of his life in prison. a judge has sentenced him to at least 30 years in prison. sarah ganum has been covering the story from the beginning and she's with me now. you were in the courtroom today. first off, jerry sandusky has had some really most people would call them bizarre reactions, bizarre answers in interviews. how did he react today? >> reporter: he didn't react specifically to the sentence, but right before it was handed down, we saw him cry and that was when he was talking about his wife, dottie, and being separated from her. he said that he doesn't like being called a child know wles ter, but what really hurts and where the pain really comes from is being separated from his wife and his family. he said he talked about this year's wedding anniversary, he rolled over in bed to give her a hug and instead he hit a cinder b
of course thursday the vice presidential debate, joe biden, paul ryan. cnn special live coverage starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern, 4:00 pacific. >>> former penn state assistant football coach jerry sandusky will likely spend the rest of his life in prison. a judge has sentenced him to at least 30 years in prison. sarah ganum has been covering the story from the beginning and she's with me now. you were in the courtroom today. first off, jerry sandusky has had some really most people would...
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i think ryan missed a huge opportunity because the romney campaign rolled out about two weeks ago, what i think is a terrific idea on this, which is the notion of capping the basket of deductions so that -- so that you as a -- as i -- as a citizen get to decide which deductions you're going to take. in other words you get like a 17% capped number about what deductions you can take. so you decide whether or not it's charitable or home mortgage or some combination of both. but i think that's a terrific idea. and i don't understand why paul ryan didn't mention that, or even ed mention it on sunday. because i think that's actually a very specific idea, and you say if that doesn't cover the number, then you -- then you increase the number. or lower the number. so i think that's a very specific idea that addresses how we're going to pay for it. >> forgive me. you've lost me. when you say that doesn't cover the number, what do you mean? what number? >> so let's say it's 17% and that doesn't pay for the tax cuts. then you lower -- then you lower the -- the deduction number to 14%. so you just -
i think ryan missed a huge opportunity because the romney campaign rolled out about two weeks ago, what i think is a terrific idea on this, which is the notion of capping the basket of deductions so that -- so that you as a -- as i -- as a citizen get to decide which deductions you're going to take. in other words you get like a 17% capped number about what deductions you can take. so you decide whether or not it's charitable or home mortgage or some combination of both. but i think that's a...